Mr Creosote himself
i agree with u with some points . but i believe this spending depends on manager philosophy i guess wenger would sign talented and good players with good combination . look at Viera , Henry , Pires , Campbell signings and so on … he can still sign good players who can adore the team as well .i insist on manager philosophy.
peder. don’t start downgrading rnaesal comment pages with typical old firm they’re scum remarks when your not nuch better yourself! The topic here is the fact the round russian man is buying up anything he can get his hands on and Mr Whyte has had no care for the club he supposedly loves and sold off a long standing friendship to line his own pockets with more money he doesn’t deserve. What Craig Whyte has done to Rangers is what other investors’ will do to other vulnerable clubs. Hes bought them with money thats not his, not paid any PAYE tax since he took over (a39m), pocketed that tax money himself as a wage, sold off several assets which the club owns (like the shares in question to this article), and after plunging the club into administration and crisis, will now go on to sell the club for possible a3millions to make further profit.However, being an avid rnaesal fan in scotland, it disappoints me that this long standing friendship between 2 of britains greatest clubs (although many rnaesal may not know much about it) has been broken down. Just shows how much these so called investors care about a clubs true history, morals, and values 1 0
Quite simply, people aren’t able to see any other way of putting together a winning team. The collective media rimming of City’s transfer policy re-inforces the idea in their minds that spending big money is the only possibility if you want to win; it’s difficult to argue against it when you see the kind of squad City can call on but is it worth selling your soul to go down a road where the winner is the guy who’s willing to put more money in and use more nefarious tactics to get what they want, rather than trying to do it the smart way?
the investment needed is to get experienced players to help us win in those hard times, not to throw away the young talented players, we need trophy winning experience at the defence, midfield and offence, that is why arsenal should invest. you can see the impact which henry put in the team when he was playing, that is what is needed.
As I said yesterday it is all about not spending too much to balance the books, and, spending enough to win things again.
My personal view is Arsenal are doing too much of the former, and not enough of the later.
There is proof that Robinho actually thought he was signing for Man U when he signed for City because he had to be corrected in his interview when he was signed.
If the club continues the way it is doing Wilshere, and, Szczesny will no longer be at Arsenal in a few years time because they will be fed up with not winning trophies, and, they can get more money elsewhere. The amount a player loves a club doesn’t matter one bit when another club comes in for them that is willing to offer the player more money and more chances of winning trophies. Arsenal will constantly have to keep rebuilding if we don’t start winning things, and offer our top players the same as what other clubs are willing to offer them.
I observe you don’t know what to write about.Grow up! No one is asking the board and Arsene Wenger to buy a full squad.We need world class and mature player to partner with our potential world class lads.Get that straight into your dump skull
I think if the fans had a choice they would clean out the entire board and not have either owner. Unfortunately that will never be and I as a fan would prefer competition to Kroenke and than have his minions in charge while he fills his pockets. Fans would rather hear an owner willing to invest in bettering Arsenal than spinning stories to increase ticket sales and nothing happens.
In all seriousness tughoh, I do have a couple of comments regarding the profit / no-profit forecast.1) Arsenal does not declare a dividend to te shareholders, so any profits not reinvested in the club operations would theoretically increase the share price. a0The cash reserves would be offset by the equity on the balance sheet. a0You would only realize a gain if you sell. a0Stan isn’t selling. a0The Fat Russian (TFR) is stubborn and isn’t selling. a0AST isn’t selling. a0So, we have a Mexican standoff and an increase in the cash accounts.2) If we do not qualify for CL, we face a number of challenges to our revenue stream as many have outlined. a0We will need to live off of our fat reserves in the form of lower operational income and increased player spending to get us back.I sincerely believe that all of this was looked at many times over. a0So, why didn’t we spend in January?? a0Quite simple. a0Because no one else spent. a0It all seems to have a domino effect contingent on one team’s big purchase (e.g. Torres). a0That didn’t happen this year. a0The only way we could have pried an important player from another team was to throw stupid money at them and we all know Arsenal (specifically Wenger) does not throw around stupid money. a0They probably came to the decision that the best scenario was to chance it this year and spend the next when we would have an easier time moving the dead weight contracts and acquiring quality reinforcements when FFP forces other clubs to right their ships. a0I sincerely hope they guessed right. 7 0
Hi WG, 🙂
I think anyone who thinks that Usmanov, kroenke or any other benefactor will wave large wads of cash at the ‘problem’ of buying top quality players is mistaken.
Why? Well there is this little thing called the Financial Fair Play rules that have already started to tighten the grip on spending, linking it to a club’s turnover/profit.
The days of the big spending oligarchs are rapidly coming to an end. To the benefit of Arsenal in the longer term.
Nice Post, WG, quality as usual. 🙂
I’m not so sure it is going to benefit Arsenal in the longer term, because, the amount of money a football club makes is directly related to how the team is performing on the pitch.
If we continue to perform badly we will continue to not make as much money as the big clubs, and therefore, continue to miss out on the best players because we cannot pay them the wages that the big clubs can pay them because the big clubs will have more money than us.
We need to start performing better on the pitch to benefit from financial fair play.
I am a big fan of Usmanov, Usmanov has passion for Arsenal to succeed and he is always there watching his favourite team. Kroenke has no clue about football and is possessed of owning an English club. No wonder I have joined USmanov Arsenal Fans on Facebook. The current board has no ambition and just concerned with profits
money,money.arsenal are buying young players mainly to sell them later for profit.there no profit without investiment.u have to balance or u live to regret.cheap is expensive know that.
Firstly kroenke is proving to be a bad move. At least as far as footballing performance goes.
Secondly david dein sold his shares to usmanov. Deins record and experience is something none of us have. If he thinks usmanov better than kroenke then we should at least consider it
That is an interesting statement UK, but Dein also sold a much bigger chunk of his shares to Danny Fizman, who in turned hated Usmanov, so I don’t think that works. 🙂
Dein IN – Wenger OUT. Somehow there seem to be calls for both, yet apparently there are claims that Dein would influence Wenger to make changes – am I missing something somewhere with these contradictionary demands? Dein sold out to the highest bidder, he is not the messiah and if anything his logic is extremely flawed.
I thought Silent Stan is an American and not a British. We need new players and we need it fast. The team is running out of ideas and our tactic is too familiar. The usual sit back and wait for counter attack and from free kicks or corners.
I see what you’re saying but its not necessarily the same people who want dein in and wenger out.
Also it’s bold to say dein sold to the highest bidder as I was earlier corrected that dein sold to fizsman and usmanov so they can’t both be highest bidder.
Is dein the messiah? Not the point.
Way I see it dein was there during the good times. Gazidis has not impressed at all. That’s my angle on this.
I read gazidis got paid 1.9 million. Yet on the pitch we are performing worse. Bankers bonus logic surely?
Good Article. Certainly no guarantee that Usmanov will suddenly splash the gap. Might be an idea of getting more shares you never know.
Still the point is there is no need to spend millions. When was the last time we spent 20 million on a proven player. Arshavin I guess.
they are doing just that)? That is a load of garbage. [H]e can
Usmanov should surely be the man that takes over Arsenal, i’d rather buy all the quality players and actually compete for champions league against Barcelona, Madrid, Bayern, City etc (which will give us massive revenue and income when ffp comes in to play) rather than spending the highest ticket prices in England to watch Squillaci, Bendtner, Chamakh, Denilson, Almunia, Diaby playing and getting destroyed by mid-table clubs (Swansea, Blackburn, Spurs, Sunderland, Fulham) and ruining AFC’s pride by even wearin the Arsenal shirt. Also buying top quality players and winning trophies makes it easier to keep hold of your top players right? – Nasri, Fabregas, Clichy, Hleb, Flamini, Toure, Adebayor, RVP this summer?
Clearly I’d rather have heavy investments in the team (like Man Utd have been doing ALL these years) and actually win something for once after 7 years, be above Spurs, not get hammered 4 – nil by Milan and be a feared team across Europe like Man Utd are.
Most of you so called fans are better of supporting Spurs your so far up Wengers ass that you think once Wengers done with Arsenal you can take him to Spurs. With Stan Kroenke, Gazidis, Wenger & P.Hill Wood, Arsenal will be an unknowm team in Europe, they’ll never finish above 7th (yes Liverpool, Spurs AND Newcastle will finish above them when RVP leaves and Chamakh becomes our top stiker) and then what does that mean when we can’t get in Champions League? Not a single penny to buy players because our revenue and income would drop vastly and Stan won’t have enough profits so he will suggest selling players to cover them missing profits without re-investing.
Well said Wiggy.
In any case, if we want evidence that a rich oligarch owner doesn’t guarantee success we only have to turn our gaze west a few miles to the bus stop in Fulham.
As Red Arse says, with FFP about to come into play it makes it even more futile to have Usmanov take over.
And anyway, isn’t he a Man Utd fan? (Usmanov, not Redders 🙂 )
One more thing. Not to beat around the bush, old Alisher doesn’t look too healthy to me. What happens if he takes over, pumps a load of cash in, falls off the perch and his heir(s) decide they want the money back…?
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